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Receiver cracks 308 Galils

Post by gray » Sat May 11, 2013 6:55 pm

I first heard 20 years ago about cracks appearing in 308 Galil receivers and since then have read a couple of posts here and there about this issue. The cracks show up somewhere near the front underside around the magwell I think. There have been various theories; one was that the recoil spring was too weak which allowed the bolt barrier to bang into the receiver?? One long time rifle instructor actually saw it happen, the receiver apparently came apart with boom and the shooter was injured. Anyone in this forum have the problem? Anyone have additional info?

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cracked Galils

Post by Stevo MT » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:20 am

I have seen this twice. The first was due to a double charged reloaded cartridge. The second cause was unknown. Both rifles were able to be re-welded and worked fine. The area of the crack was bottom of mag well and scope mount cut.

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Post by AGG » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:50 am

Magnum Research, Action Arms, or other??? :shock:

Tony

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Post by Stevo MT » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:55 pm

Action Arms, factory assembled by IMI.

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Post by AGG » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:20 am

Thanks!!! :D

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Post by M62/M76 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:27 am

I think this would be a pretty rare thing.

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Post by Stevo MT » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:59 am

I agree. In both cases these were back when the rifles were readily imported, available and being used in the field like we use ARs today- more than 25 years ago. The one, as I said was from an over pressure situation. I still know the owner. At the time I had an FFL and I sold him that Galil new in box. He admitted the bad reload was his fault. He said it blew the magazine out and blew the floor plate out of the magazine as well as cracking the receiver.
After thinking about the second, I seem to remember this rifle was dropped onto concrete with a scope attached. It must have torqued the wall of the receiver, where the scope mount dove tail gets close to the mag well.
The same Montana gunsmith welded/repaired both of these rifles and they went on to be enjoyed by their owners without further problems. Both cracks were in the same area- right at the bottom of the scope mounting dove tail cut and from there into the front left corner of the mag well.
Now, these rifles are so expensive that most are safe queens and not out in the field.
Steve

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Post by GoodGuy » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:40 am

Stevo MT wrote: ... I seem to remember this rifle was dropped onto concrete with a scope attached. It must have torqued the wall of the receiver, where the scope mount dove tail gets close to the mag well.
That makes sense to me. The milling for that scope dovetail area does thin the receiver in that area. That together with a poor or indifferent heat treatment might make that area of the receiver brittle and susceptible to cracking.

I'm not really up on my Galils... Was that scope mount dovetail present on military rifles, or was it cut only for commercial rifles (perhaps to make import into the USA easier)?
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Post by Stevo MT » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:32 pm

I have seen Israeli military Galils (5.56) with the scope mount dove tail cut.

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Post by Sako92S » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:38 am

I have original military Galil receiver and it has dove tail cut.
Building Galil/RK62/95 clone

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Re: Receiver cracks 308 Galils

Post by Tom Doniphon » Mon May 07, 2018 5:34 pm

May be why South Africans use the buffer on the stock knuckle.

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